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Jan 09/05
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The Tsunami - What Happens When We Pray?
The earthquake and tsunami in Asia have forever changed the way we look at our world. Today on our show we explore spiritual questions this disaster has raised. Waves of unspeakable grief… 

Listen Up talked to the Prime Minister about his prayers in the crisis. We also talked to Canadian teenagers in Thailand who were praying - and then asked to fill body bags. We looked at a flood of compassion as we faced a shattering load of confusion, frustration and anger. Listen Up gathered questions that confronted the faiths of the world. But, amidst all the horror, death, and destruction in the wake of the Tsunami, people still found hope. It seemed that the only relief available for everyone…was prayer..

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REV. SUNDER KRISHNAN was born into an orthodox Hindu family in India and grew up in the capital city of New Delhi. He completed high school in 1961; graduated from the Indian Institute of Technology in 1967; and received his Master's Degree in Mechanical Engineering in 1969 from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
In June 1969, he joined the staff of Atomic Energy of Canada which is located in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. Most of his eleven years on staff were spent in safety analysis of nuclear generating stations.
Sunder came to know Jesus Christ as his Saviour through the ministry of Youth For Christ in the City of New Delhi during his first year of undergraduate studies. He was active for several years with Youth For Christ in India. During his two years in Boston he was active with Campus Crusade for Christ.
Since arriving in Toronto, Sunder and his family have worshipped at Rexdale Alliance Church. His primary ministry was as an adult Sunday School teacher. He served on the Board of Elders and as a member of the Executive Committee for eight years. In October 1980, Sunder resigned his position with Atomic Energy of Canada and joined the pastoral staff of Rexdale Alliance Church as the Associate Pastor. In this capacity he was responsible for preaching at all services. He was ordained to the Christian ministry in October 1982. When the Senior Pastor retired, Rev. Sunder Krishnan accepted that position on January 1, 1997.
Rev. Krishnan has been the featured speaker at The General Assembly of The Christian and Missionary Alliance in Canada, The General Council of The Christian and Missionary Alliance in the United States, in several Bible Colleges, and numerous missionary conferences and concerts of prayer. In addition he has ministered overseas to many missionaries and pastors.
In 1971, he and Shyamala were married. They have two grown children and three grandchildren.

For more info. on Rev. Krishnan and his church, please click on to : www.rexdalealliance.org 

JOHN FRANKLIN is the Executive director of IMAGO, a unique organization promoting the artistic development of Christians in theatre, dance, music, fine arts, film, and literature. He is also a professor of philosophy and theology.

For more information on John Franklin and his work with IMAGO, please click on the following: http://www.imago-arts.on.ca 

GEOFF TUNNICLIFFE ( Director, Global Initiatives) came on staff in 2003 to promote partnerships among Canadian ministries committed to a global outreach, as well as initiatives involving foreign-based ministries. He continues to help lead the World Evangelical Alliance’s Missions Commission and to work with the Africa Aids Initiative, an alliance of North American churches aiming to foster a grassroots, African church-based ministry to Africans affected by HIV/AIDS. He is also involved in a global campaign, including the WEA, to mobilize Christians against poverty. In Canada he consults with churches interested in developing global mission plans and in the development of resources to promote global missions. He began writing a weblog in August 2004

http://www.christianity.ca/mission/features/weblog.html
http://www.evangelicalfellowship.ca/mnf/page_viewer.asp?article_id=13

REV. GIDEON TANDIRERUNG is a pastor of the Indonesian Alliance Church in Montreal. His church is only 3 months old, and made up of Christian Indonesian refugees who fled persecution because of their faith. Now they are making a big effort to bless and help their country and its people during the aftermath of the Tsunami.
Listen Up interviewed Gideon about his thoughts on the Tsunami disaster.

LU: How is your church affected by this disaster?
GT: As brothers and sisters in Christ of the Indonesian Alliance church in Montreal, we earnestly have the burden to raise funds for the relief effort for the Tsunami victims regardless whether they are Christians or non-Christians. We feel this is the right time to show our love and concern to them. We want them to realize that God's love is amidst them although they lost their loved ones.
LU: You mentioned it is made up of Christian Indonesian refugees who left because of persecution - are your families still there?
GT: My family is still in Indonesia. Fortunately, they are not in a disaster area. They are all residing in my hometown, the central part of Indonesia, and quite a distance from the devastated area where they stay up to now.
LU: Why do you think you feel burdened for the nation that persecuted you?
GT:Indonesia is still my beloved country and although we are far away will still have the burden to help those who are in crisis there. Our responsibility is not just to serve in the pulpit but also doing good things to all people. The good way is by using effectively what God has given to us. This is the right time to witness about the faithfulness, goodness, kindness, love and mercy of God by helping them and that they would realize that God is the provider of everything. For God is the greatest compared to our problems, difficulties, pains and miseries because He is our Living God, Creator and Redeemer. We love them all regardless what happened in the pass.
LU: What are you hoping to accomplish with your appeal?
GT:Our primary hope is that the relief effort would be given to the victims. We want to use our efforts and resources and donate them to the neediest people at this moment.
LU: Are you asking for a local or national prayer effort in your denomination as well?
GT: Yes, both local and national prayer for the Tsunami disaster victims. Prayers are powerful if there is sincerity and persistency.

YOUTH MISSION INTERNATIONAL

We interviewed Corina Reimer, co-leader of TREK in Thailand, after her and her team had helped in the clean up of the Tsunami destruction in Phuket, Thailand.

The names are as follows: (l to r) in back: Jason Reimer (St. Catharines, ON), Dallas Stobbe (Killarney, MB). in front: Amanda Griffioen(Abbotsford, BC), Corina Reimer(St. Catharines, ON), Katrina Grabner(Rocky Mtn House, AB), Danielle Slaughter (Fresno, CA)

Youth Mission International is:
*  a discipleship mission movement
* a ministry of MBMS International, the global mission agency of Mennonite Brethren churches in Canada and the United States
*3 seperate programs for youth and young adults: SOAR, ACTION and TREK
* over 3,500 youth and young adults who have been called into deeper intimacy with God, transparent community and sacrificial service
* a ministry in cross-cultural, inner city and international settings.
* a member of the Global Discipleship Training Alliance

For more information on the TREK program or supporting Youth Mission International, please click on: http://www.youthmission.org 

Ricky and Karen Sanchez are a part of Team 2000, part of MBMS International. This term they will continue to focus on language learning and move into strategic evangelism to see a church formed in Chonburi, Thailand.
The other members of Team 2000 are Andy and Carmen Owen with their sons Connor and Isaac, and Dave and Louise Sinclair-Peters with their children, Kyla, Micah, Grace and Sierra.
Chonburi is in the area just southeast of Bangkok on the Gulf of Thailand. It has an international harbour that oversees trade with countries from around the world, and serves several industrial parks in the area. It is also a fishing center for the central Thailand region. Its beaches and tropical warm climate also attract many to resorts like Pattaya to the south.
They have opened a "Friendship Centre" where they teach English to adults and do community outreaches. They also hold their "Celebration Services" there once a month.

WORLD VISION CANADA

World Vision, which has made a difference in the lives of millions of people, began in China with one person - Dr. Bob Pierce, an American missionary.
In 1947 while on a trip to China, Pierce met Tena Hoelkedoer, a teacher. She introduced him to a battered and abandoned child, named White Jade. Unable to care for the child herself, she asked Pierce, "What are you going to do about her?" Pierce gave the woman his last five dollars and agreed to send the same amount each month to help the woman care for White Jade. This encounter was a turning point for Pierce. He set about building an organization dedicated to helping the world's children. World Vision was born and the first child sponsorship program began a few years later in response to the needs of hundreds-of-thousands of orphans at the end of the Korean War in 1953.
Through the decades, World Vision has become a leader in the field of relief and development. With almost 14,000 full and part time staff members implementing programs of emergency relief, education, health care, economic development and promotion of justice in more than 90 countries, World Vision is a living tribute to Pierce's work.
Canada has been part of the World Vision family since the early days. In 1950 Pierce held the first meetings in Canada to discuss what he had seen and learned. In 1957 Canada's first World Vision office opened in a tiny downtown-Toronto office. Today the new national headquarters, overseen by president Dave Toycen, is one of the partnership's largest and busiest offices.
World Vision is Canada's largest private relief and development agency. Today, Canadians support 300,000 children around the world. For 31 years, World Vision Canada's 30 Hour Famine raised funds to fight world hunger, poverty and injustice. Last year saw about 155,000 youth raise almost $4 million. Over the last year, World Vision Canada launched more than 60 initiatives in response to emergencies around the world and operated 300 long-term development projects.
World Vision Canada has a long history of partnering with the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA) and other government bodies in overseas development and in addressing global issues such as banning landmines, child rights, hunger and health issues.
-from www.worldvision.ca

 
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OTHER HELPFUL LINKS:

For more info. on the Tsunami, news updates, an interactive map of the damage in specific countries, please go onto to the CBC website at:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada... 
www.mcc.org
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS... 

Listen Up is committed to helping those that are suffering in the aftermath of the Tsunami disaster. We encourage you to do all that you can to support those that have been affected by this disaster. Here is a list of organizations that are working tirelessly on the ground in Indonesia, Sri Lanka, and Thailand. Please call or check their websites out for more information.

World Vision Canada
1-800-268-5528


Mennonite Central Committee
1-888-622-6337


Canadian Food for the Hungry International

Canadian Catholic Organization for Development and Peace
1-888-664-3387

Salvation Army
Donation line: 1-800-725-2769


ACT: Action by Churches Together
Donations can be made through local member churches


Canadian Lutheran World Relief

The United Church of Canada

CARE Canada
1-800-267-5232

 Red Cross Canada
1-800-418-1111
(or donate through your local Red Cross office)

Save the Children Canada
1-800-668-5036 or 416-221-5501
4141 Yonge Street, Suite 300
Toronto, Ont., M2P 2A8

UNICEF Canada
1-800-567-4483
2200 Yonge St., Suite 1100
Toronto, Ont. M4S 2C6

Oxfam Canada
1-800-466-9326
Asian Earthquake/Floods Relief, Oxfam Canada
200-215 Spadina Avenue
Toronto, Ont. M5T 2C7

ENGAGING FAITH IN THE WAKE OF A TSUNAMI  (by John Franklin)

I want to offer a few reflections about the recent tsunami and the devastation it left in its wake. In circumstances of this sort people of faith need not be drawn into a defensive posture - but can offer some response out of the richness of their tradition. The comments below are shaped by the Christian tradition in which I stand. The three questions were raised in the context of this whole matter - questions many are asking.

Let me say at the outset that this devastating natural disaster - does not lend itself to any simple religious explanation. We may be able to give a straightforward scientific account of why this has happened - but a theological or religious account is not so simple.

It is a great temptation for Christians and I expect for people of other religious traditions as well to "explain" why this kind of disaster occurs. This is a temptation I think we should resist. Religious belief is not so much about explanation as it is about meaning.

Let's be clear - every worldview - including every religious worldview - runs the risk of insulating its adherents from some aspect of reality. Our theories about the world can falsify reality. And then reality strikes. Life is always more mysterious and less manageable that our theories would lead us to believe. What we have in this recent natural disaster is something that doesn't fit easily with our theories about life, including our often oversimplified religious "theories".

The biblical narrative makes it abundantly clear that suffering will be part of human existence. In the Hebrew scriptures there is Job, Jeremiah, the book of Lamentations, many of the Psalms - and it shows up in the New Testament as well particularly in the cross and the call to Christians to live as those who bear a cross.

Part of that biblical story is that humanity and the whole created order is in trouble - it is not what it was originally intended to be. This disaster is nature following its path. And it is a path that from time to time has profoundly negative results for humanity.

What this disaster points to is the vulnerability of our human condition…. Something we do not readily accept. It is a frightening prospect for many to see this human vulnerability - because it is not only that of the victims but our own as well. We are used to being in control - to managing our environment for our own ends and this powerful and devastating event is a profound challenge to our status on this small globe in the universe.

Does God hear the prayers of people of all faiths?

It is difficult to say what God does or does not do…. But the Christian tradition sees God as aware of all that happens in human history and so the cries of humanity are certainly included. I think too that when we ask this question the hope is that God will respond in a certain way. That our prayer will bend the ear of God and he will do what we ask…. well not necessarily… Prayers come not just in a litany of words requesting things of God - but also in actions which are embodied expressions of the longings which give rise to our words of prayers.

Where is God in all of this?

I can only suggest that God is where God has always been. This question once again looks to call God to account. Many of us think that God is there to make things work out the way we want them to. It is as if God is some sort of cosmic bellhop - who will come at our beck and call. We have expectations that God will act in a certain way - and more often than not God appears not to act in the way we expect. One consequence of this is that we complain about God's absence - and point the finger of blame in the direction of the divine.

The place to look for God in all of this is not is the event that occurred but in the response to that event. When it comes to the question of where God is we get too focused on "explanation" inquiring whether God has caused the event or simply stood by idly and done nothing about it. We do not attend enough to the gestures of mercy and support that flow out of the human community. These are gestures of grace that address this terrible situation in a redemptive way. Divine action in the world is commonly embodied in the people who seek to live a life of faith - and can be found in all sorts of places in the human community where each and every one bears the image of the Creator.

What should we be praying for?


We can pray for those who survived and now carry the unbearable weight of loss and personal suffering. And we could pray for wisdom to know how to respond and for light to see more clearly who we are and what our condition is as human beings.

If nothing else this tragic event should diminish our falsely based confidence in ourselves and the power that we can wield. It can turn us instead to a different sort of power that is found in the love and compassion that is able to tie us together in the human community.

 
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