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Micro Credit – Tiny Loans, Tremendous Impact

More than a billion people the world over survive on less than a dollar a day. But those who work with the poor, say giving them tiny loans can have a tremendous impact...

This week we're bringing you the show from Halifax, where we've found a gathering of people who want to revolutionize the way the world’s poorest people get access to money. Imagine, 90 percent of the world’s population can never access the banking services you and I take for granted. Today, we'll talk with a Nobel Peace Prize winner who says extreme poverty can become history.

Also today, Listen Up will talk with the banker to the poor for the world's richest family; Bill and Melinda Gates. Why are they getting involved? And we'll talk one-on-one with Canada's Minister of Foreign Affairs on why your tax dollars are going to help the micro credit revolution. Financial services that transform lives.

The 2006 Micro Credit Summit
What is Micro Credit?
Muhammed Yunus – Nobel Peace Prize winner
Larry Reed – Opportunity International Network
Lawrence Yanovitch – Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Christopher Shore – World Vision USA
A Conversation with The Hon. Peter MacKay
Maimouna Kebe – Intl. Development, Michigan State University
Lorna’s Wrap
What is Micro Credit?

Micro Credit is the provision of just loans and Microfinance is the provision of loans as well as other financial services such as savings, insurance and remittance products and deal with only one aspect of poverty.
Microenterprise development takes the foundation of microfinance and adds to it business training, mentoring, personal, leadership and spiritual development.


The 2006 Micro Credit Summit
www.globalmicrocreditsummit2006.org

“Microcredit is a critical anti-poverty tool and a wise investment in human capital. Now that the nations of the world have committed themselves to reduce by half by the year 2015 the number of people living on less than $1 a day, we must look even more seriously at the pivotal role that sustainable microfinance can play and is playing in reaching this Millennium Development Goal.”
- United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan

In February 1997, RESULTS Educational Fund convened the Microcredit Summit, launching a nine-year Campaign to reach 100 million of the world's poorest families, especially the women of those families, with credit for self-employment and other financial and business services by the end of 2005.  This historic event, held in Washington, D.C., brought together over 2,900 delegates from 137 countries.  After the Summit, Margaret Catley-Carlson, the Chair of ICARDA and the Global Water Partnership and Past President of the Canadian International Development Agency said, “There just aren't enough words to describe how good I feel about the outcome of the Microcredit Summit and what a wonderful job you and your colleagues did in making it one of the most amazing events in which I ever participated.”
Continuing on the success of the 1997 Summit, a series of Global and Regional meetings have been successfully held and attended by more than 10,000 delegates from more than 140 countries.  From 1997 to the present, the Microcredit Summit Campaign has relentlessly pursued its goal, maintaining a steadfast commitment to the Summit's four core themes: 1) reaching the poorest, 2) reaching and empowering women, 3) building financially self-sufficient institutions, and 4) ensuring a positive, measurable impact on the lives of the clients and their families.  The Microcredit Summit Campaign is a global effort to put first those whom society has put last - to restore to people control over their own lives and destinies.
As of December 31, 2003, 2,931 microcredit institutions had reported reaching 81 million clients, 55 million of whom were among the poorest when they took their first loan.  Of these 55 million poorest clients, 82.5 percent are women.  Seven hundred seventy-nine institutions submitted a 2004 Institutional Action Plan outlining their progress.  Together these 779 institutions accounted for 90 percent of the poorest clients reported. Assuming five persons per family, the 55 million poorest clients reached by the end of 2003 affected some 274 million family members.
It takes the Campaign ten months to collect and verify the previous year's data.  End of 2005 data will be released at the Summit in Halifax.
In addition to marking the culmination of the first phase of the Campaign, the Global Microcredit Summit will also officially launch the Campaign's extension to 2015 with two new goals:

1. Working to ensure that 175 million of the world's poorest families, especially the women of  those families, are receiving credit for self-employment and other financial and business  services by the end of 2015.

2. Working to ensure that 100 million of the world's poorest families move from below US$1 a day adjusted for purchasing power parity (PPP) to above US$1 a day adjusted for PPP by the end of 2015.

“Access to financial services for the poor is a critical condition for the attainment of the United Nations Millennium Development Goals.”
- James D. Wolfensohn, Former President, The World Bank
in a 2004 letter to 700 parliamentarians

More than 2,000 delegates from over 100 countries are expected to attend the Global Microcredit Summit 2006, including heads of state and government and other dignitaries.  This summit will offer the opportunity for microcredit practitioners, advocates, donors, and others committed to the Summit's goals to assess progress, discuss challenges to achieving the new goals for 2015, and identify strategies for overcoming those challenges.
The Global Microcredit Summit will include:
1) the release of the State of the Microcredit Summit Campaign Report 2006, outlining progress towards our 100 million poorest goal,
2) five new commissioned papers discussed in plenary sessions,
3) 34 official workshop sessions at the beginner, intermediate, and advanced levels, for both developing and industrialized countries,
4) 34 additional associated sessions organized by delegates,
5) ten day-long courses,
6) presentation of two Institutional Action Plans in plenary session and 14 more in seven breakout Council meetings, and
7) release of the most extensive directory of microcredit institutions ever assembled.

Muhammed Yunus – Grameen Bank
www.grameen-info.org

When Business Week hailed 2006 as the year of Microfinance, one reason was this man: Bangladeshi economist Muhammad Yunus, who shared the Nobel Peace Prize with the bank he founded 30 years ago. Yunus pioneered the practise of giving tiny loans to the poor. He found that putting even minimal financial resources in the hands of those with no collateral or credit history can give them a major boost towards self-sufficiency.

Professor Muhammad Yunus, Founder and Managing Director of Grameen Bank in Bangladesh, is internationally recognized for his work in poverty alleviation and the empowerment of poor women. Grameen Bank, admired and replicated around the world, is a microcredit institution dedicated to providing small amounts of capital to the poor, without collateral, for self-employment. The bank has proved beyond any doubt that the poor are very much creditworthy. From its origins as an action-research project in 1976, Grameen Bank has grown to provide collateral-free loans to 6.4 million borrowers in Bangladesh, 96% of who are women. Grameen Bank today lends 750 million dollars a year to the poorest, including beggars, while maintaining a repayment rate of 99%. Professor Yunus' autobiography, "Banker to the Poor: Micro-lending and the Battle against Poverty," has been translated to 17 languages. He has received many awards, both national & international honorary doctorate degrees, and also serves as a member of various committees and advisory boards within the country and abroad.

Muhammed Yunus :

“People in the beginning were not sure that it would work, because how can people pay back if you are not tying them down with something solid that they cannot ignore? But we ignored that advice and went around and gave loans on the basis of trust. Basically is what we do is banking on trust. And it works. People say Bangladesh must be some funny country … it wouldn’t work anywhere else in the world, today it works in almost every single country in the world.”

It’s a hand up—according to the Nobel prize winner who began his work in 1976—not a hand out. And thanks largely to the Grameen bank Yunus founded, 80 percent of poor families in Bangladesh today are on the road to economic independence. Their goal is to reach 100 percent by the year 2010. But, says Yunus, that’s only the beginning.

Muhammad Yunus :
We are a long way from the number of people that we want to reach. One sweeping number I can give is that almost 2/3 of the world’s population have no access to conventional banks, financial services. So you have a big vacuum out there. At one time I used to say that conventional banks are practicing some kind of commercial apartheid. They draw a line and … 2/3 of the world’s population is on the other side of that line. Credit should be accepted as a human right, so you don’t debate about it any more. So go right ahead and establish that human right for everybody.”


Larry Reed – Opportunity International Network
www.opportunity.net

The Opportunity International Network combines worldwide reach with local expertise in the life-changing arena of microfinance. Small loans in the hands of a poor entrepreneur can transform families and entire communities. Multiply that by 42 partners running microfinance programs in 28 different nations, and you can change the world. The Opportunity International Network provides the infrastructure for it all — offering support as well as access to powerful strategies and technology.
Larry Reed is Chief Executive Officer of Opportunity International Network, a global coalition of 42 microfinance organizations in over 25 countries. Beginning his service with Opportunity-US in 1984, Larry has held a variety of senior positions within the organization. In 1991, he founded Opportunity's Africa Regional Office in Zimbabwe, and served as Africa Regional Director until 1996. Upon returning to the US, he became Vice President of Opportunity-US for global operations. Opportunity internationalized its structure in 1998, and Larry was asked to lead the new Opportunity International Network. From 1999 to 2002, Larry served as chair of the Small Education Enterprise Promotion (SEEP) Network, a research and advocacy group of microfinance industry practitioners. He has also published several articles on microfinance and served as a contributor to "The New World of Microfinance" (Rhyne, Otero, et. Al.,1996), “Serving with the Poor in Africa” (Yamamori, Myers, Bediako and Reed) and “Globalization and the Kingdom of God” (Goudzwaard, 2001). Larry is a graduate of Wheaton College and the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.


Lawrence Yanovitch – The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

Financial Services to the Poor

The Challenge
Like people everywhere, people living in developing countries need financial services. By saving and borrowing money, for example, they can build homes and pay health and education expenses. With access to a small amount of investment capital, they can start or expand the types of businesses that are common in countries that don’t offer stable employment, which often means work as tailors, street vendors, and smallholder farmers. And by accessing health and life insurance, the poor protect themselves from the potentially devastating financial consequences of falling sick and not being healthy enough to work.
However, more than 90 percent of the world’s population that survives on less than $2 a day have no access to these types of services. Necessity forces them to rely on informal financial systems, such as moneylenders or money clubs.  In the former, interest rates can be extremely high and in the latter, they can carry substantial risk.

The Hope
Access to more conventional financial services can reduce vulnerability to financial setbacks and open opportunities for families to increase income and rise from poverty. The foundation’s Financial Services for the Poor initiative focuses on four areas that can lead to the development and improvement of suitable services, as well as dramatically increase service availability. We believe that a sharp focus on these four goals can make a difference for hundreds of millions of families over the next 12 to 15 years.

  • Develop new and improved financial services for the poor.
Today, institutions that offer financial services to the poor often focus on making working capital loans to the poor. We support efforts to develop additional services, such as improved business lending, savings, and insurance products. We think these new, sometimes experimental services can be provided in a cost effective way and may reach more people and have a greater effect on reducing human suffering.

  • Develop business models that dramatically accelerate growth.
To improve access, we believe that a variety of financial services providers are needed and that they must compete on price and quality to serve the poor. To this end, we support a variety of groups and distribution channels  that offer (or could offer) financial services, including commercial banks, public banks, post offices, credit unions, cooperatives, and non-profit organizations. We also support the development and use of technologies (e.g. rural ATMs) that can improve outreach and reduce the costs of doing business.

  • Provide more predictable capital flow.
Financing from social and commercial investors is responsible for much of the growth in the financial services industry. We want to stimulate these types of funding sources to encourage the industry to keep growing. When appropriate, we also want to help improve the consistency and coordination of donor financing.

  • Improve information for policy-making.
We support work that improves policy analysis and the quality of information collected about financial services and their effects.  Better information can help us focus on the best financial strategies for alleviating poverty.

Representative Grants
Our Global Development Program was officially launched in April 2006. However, in 2005, we began making a series of exploratory grants in Financial Services for the Poor, including:

$1.5 million to Unitus, Inc. to identify, study, and test ways to increase the efficiency of businesses providing financial services to the poor to help expand services and lower costs

$5.5 million to Aga Khan Foundation to develop and test a range of insurance products – including health, life, and business catastrophe insurance – for the poor in South Asia and Africa

$2.2 million to Opportunity International to test new technologies that can help expand outreach into rural areas of East Africa to serve clients with insurance, loans, and savings facilities

$5.8 million to ACCION International to provide technical assistance to commercial banks in Africa and India to begin serving the urban poor with a variety of lending and savings

Based on our learning from these grants and continued research, our Financial Services for the Poor initiative will continue to seek ways to promote greater access to a range of high-impact financial services for the world’s poor.


Lawrence J. Yanovitch has 20 years of operations management and public policy experience in microfinance. He currently serves as Senior Program Officer in the Financial Services for the Poor division of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.  He previously served as Director of Policy & Technical Assistance at FINCA International. Mr. Yanovitch has managed and supported the development of microfinance institutions in 34 countries. He holds a B.A. in Business Administration from the University of Washington and a DEUG in International Studies from Université de Paris, la Sorbonne.  He speaks five languages.


CHRISTOPHER SHORE – WORLD VISION USA

Christopher Shore is the Director of the Microenterprise Development Group, World Vision USA
www.worldvision.org

Our Holistic Approach

World Vision aims to transform the lives of the poor with assistance that is holistic and synergistic, addressing multiple inter-related needs such as clean water, healthcare, education, secure food sources, and economic growth. Ultimately, our goal is to build a community’s and individual’s capacity to solve their own problems.
A vital component of building that capacity is to create an “economic engine” that allows a poor community to escape poverty. The best way to do this is to invest in the entrepreneurial spirit among the poor themselves, providing them with the tools to participate in the marketplace and work their way to a better life.

By providing credit, business coaching, and access to markets, World Vision enables the poor to generate income and create new jobs. Find out how we work.

The majority of our loan clients live in communities served by World Vision development programs. Here, our clients may benefit from clean water, food, agricultural training, education, health care, and economic assistance like skills training — the macro foundations on which microbusinesses can begin to flourish.

World Vision began it’s first microcredit program in Colombia in 1993; today we operate microlending programs in more than 40 countries.

Microenterprise development enables the world’s poor to experience a dramatic increase in standard of living, health, and happiness. With hard work and assistance from World Vision, our loan clients’ lives are changed.

How We Work
1. The entrepreneurial poor apply for loans:
A traditional bank loan is unattainable for most of the world’s poor. They have no credit, they may own no property, and if they have a business, it’s likely struggling despite long hours of hard work. Through a variety of strategies like group lending through community banks, and cross-guarantees, loans can effectively and efficiently be provided to people who lack collateral but who demonstrate an entrepreneurial spirit, trustworthiness, a good work ethic, and sound business ideas. The proof it works: 96% of loans are repaid on time!
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2. World Vision disburses microloans:
Loan sizes vary from $50 to $5,000, most typically in the $100 to $2,000 range. Usually loans are given to groups of five to 30 microbusiness operators who band together for self-administration, mutual encouragement, and accountability. This ensures that even the poorest of the poor can have access to credit because these entrepreneurs cross-guarantee each other’s loans and support each other’s businesses. Most World Vision loan recipients are women, who consistently use their extra income to benefit their children.
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3. Credit officers coach loan recipients:
Credit officers begin coaching clients before they receive their first loan, and continue with regular follow-up throughout the term of the loan. Business coaching includes assistance with accounting, marketing, and managing—all based on biblical and ethical business principles.
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4. Growing businesses thrive:
With a loan, entrepreneurs start carpentry shops, improve farming, operate flower businesses, purchase livestock, run food services, and weaving businesses, to name a few. These businesses create jobs and generate additional goods and services, thereby enhancing the entire community. Last year, over 185,000 jobs were created or sustained through our clients’ business successes.
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5. Loans are repaid:
The poor are a good credit risk, repaying their loans more than 96 percent of the time. As loans are repaid, borrowers become eligible for larger loans. The reasonable interest rate sustains the loan program, while maintaining low arrears and efficient operations.
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6. Families gain self-sufficiency:
Families who receive small loans report better family health, an increase in their business earnings, and the ability to spend more on food, medicine, and education. According to a study by George Washington University of microloan recipients in World Vision projects:
  • More than 90 percent reported improved business skills.
  • 75 percent reported an increased sense of empowerment.
  • 80 percent reported improved family health in East Africa.
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7. Loan is recycled:
Repaid loans are recycled to help an ever-growing number of poor entrepreneurs to grow their businesses, better support their families, generate jobs, and aid their communities.
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>> Community Banks
Community Banking is World Vision’s primary lending methodology. These loan-and-savings circles provide efficient and cost-effective delivery of financial services to some of the poorest in the world. Integrated with other interventions to meet development needs, World Vision helps transform entire communities.
Opportunity for the poorest - Community Banking creates an opportunity for the poorest to obtain credit. Entrepreneurs typically band together in self-selected groups of 15 to 30 members to form a lending group and elect their own leaders. It is important that groups self-select responsible members whom they trust, because the entire group acts as a guarantor for every member’s loan. Members are then trained in effective loan management and leadership skills.
Cost-effective - Because loan officers work with groups rather than individuals in training and handling loans, the costs of Community Banking are low. This methodology also enables cost-effective provision of loans as small as $50. World Vision lends money to the Community Bank, which in turn, lends money to each member. Members must save a specified amount before they receive a loan.
High loan repayment rates - Loan repayment rates in community banks are extremely high. The group requires weekly meetings, where loans are tracked and repaid. These meetings also provide an excellent forum for encouragement and spiritual input, as well as training in business management, or in topics such as health care, HIV/AIDS education, or improved nutrition. This extra education is taught by the World Vision development project staff according to their areas of expertise.
Positive impact - Ultimately, Community Bank members improve their entrepreneurial skills, their incomes increase, their businesses thrive, jobs are created for the community, and families and the entire community benefits. Household heads can more easily afford school fees, provide improved nutrition, and adequate health care. The enterprise-minded begin to lift themselves and their families out of poverty and fuel their community’s economy.
As Community Bank members repay their loans, they are eligible for larger loans. Eventually, enterprising members with a good repayment record are allowed to form smaller Solidarity Groups and receive more sizable loans.
>> Solidarity Groups
Designed for more experienced and larger enterprises, Solidarity Groups are smaller than Community Banks, with an average of three to six people who guarantee each other’s loans. Members who make repayments on time become eligible for large individual loans. Loan sizes range from $300 to $800.
>> Individual Loans
Clients who have either grown their own businesses successfully through a solidarity group or have medium-sized businesses qualify for loans ranging from $500 to $5,000. These loans typically require either two guarantors or collateral. Borrowers often create a formal business plan in consultation with their loan officer.

Maimouna Kebe – Centre for Advanced Study of International Development, Michigan State University

“In my country you are considered young if you are under 35 years. And this category of population is more than 77 percent of the population. How can we develop our country if they are out of the social/economic process? They need to be integrated in this process…
We have to identify what is our main resource. Our main resource today is our human being – human being. That’s why we have to focus our development on human being.”


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LORNA’S WRAP

What we've learned at the micro credit conference is that over 80 percent of the world’s population lives with just one percent of its resources. But there are a few things that tie us together and one of them happens to be television. In fact, in this home in India where I visited, a television set was on. Somehow electricity was getting into this home.

These stories are shared around the globe, and we have a responsibility to help our neighbours who live on far less than one dollar a day. If you're watching us from that part of the globe—Listen Up is a program which goes all over the world—write to us at an internet cafe if you can, and we'll try to connect you to the micro credit revolution we've discovered here. For the rest of you watching from the North American audience, we need to get behind what’s happening for the world’s poorest families. Check it out in detail at our website at listenuptv.com. Find an agency you can partner with and lets make tomorrow a better day for the world’s poorest families.

There’s more on this on our website. You can download the show on podcast or watch it online. Thanks for joining us. That's this week’s look behind the headlines with a spiritual view.


Is Grameen Bank Different From Conventional Banks?

By Muhammad Yunus
August , 2006
Grameen Bank methodology is almost the reverse of the conventional banking methodology. Conventional banking is based on the principle that the more you have, the more you can get. In other words, if you have little or nothing, you get nothing. As a result, more than half the population of the world is deprived of the financial services of the conventional banks. Conventional banking is based on collateral, Grameen system is collateral- free.

Grameen Bank starts with the belief that credit should be accepted as a human right, and builds a system where one who does not possess anything gets the highest priority in getting a loan. Grameen methodology is not based on assessing the material possession of a person, it is based on the potential of a person. Grameen believes that all human beings, including the poorest, are endowed with endless potential.

Conventional banks look at what has already been acquired by a person . Grameen looks at the potential that is waiting to be unleashed in a person.

Conventional banks are owned by the rich, generally men. Grameen Bank is owned by poor women.
Overarching objective of the conventional banks is to maximize profit. Grameen Bank's objective is to bring financial services to the poor, particularly women and the poorest ¾ to help them fight poverty, stay profitable and financially sound. It is a composite objective, coming out of social and economic visions.

Conventional banks focus on men, Grameen gives high priority to women. 96 per cent of Grameen Bank's borrowers are women. Grameen Bank works to raise the status of poor women in their families by giving them ownership of assets. It makes sure that the ownership of the houses built with Grameen Bank loans remain with the borrowers, i.e., the women.

Grameen Bank branches are located in the rural areas, unlike the branches of conventional banks which try to locate themselves as close as possible to the business districts and urban centers. First principle of Grameen banking is that the clients should not go to the bank, it is the bank which should go to the people instead. Grameen Bank's 18,795 staff meet 6.61 million borrowers at their door-step in 71,371 villages spread out all over Bangladesh, every week, and deliver bank's service. Repayment of Grameen loans is also made very easy by splitting the loan amount in tiny weekly installments. Doing business this way means a lot of work for the bank, but it is a lot convenient for the borrowers.

There is no legal instrument between the lender and the borrower in the Grameen methodology. There is no stipulation that a client will be taken to the court of law to recover the loan, unlike in the conventional system. There is no provision in the methodology to enforce a contract by any external intervention.

Conventional banks go into 'punishment' mode when a borrower is taking more time in repaying the loan than it was agreed upon. They call these borrowers "defaulters". Grameen methodology allows such borrowers to reschedule their loans without making them feel that they have done anything wrong (indeed, they have not done anything wrong.)

When a client gets into difficulty, conventional banks get worried about their money, and make all efforts to recover the money, including taking over the collateral. Grameen system, in such cases, works extra hard to assist the borrower in difficulty, and makes all efforts to help her regain her strength and overcome her difficulties.

In conventional banks charging interest does not stop unless specific exception is made to a particular defaulted loan. Interest charged on a loan can be multiple of the principal, depending on the length of the loan period. In Grameen Bank, under no circumstances total interest on a loan can exceed the amount of the loan, no matter how long the loan remains unrepaid. No interest is charged after the interest amount equals the principal.

Conventional banks do not pay attention to what happens to the borrowers' families as results of taking loans from the banks. Grameen system pays a lot of attention to monitoring the education of the children (Grameen Bank routinely gives them scholarships and student loans), housing, sanitation, access to clean drinking water, and their coping capacity for meeting disasters and emergency situations. Grameen system helps the borrowers to build their own pension funds, and other types of savings.

Interest on conventional bank loans are generally compounded quarterly, while all interests are simple interests in Grameen Bank.

In case of death of a borrower, Grameen system does not require the family of the deceased to pay back the loan. There is a built-in insurance programme which pays off the entire outstanding amount with interest. No liability is transferred to the family.

In Grameen Bank even a beggar gets special attention. A beggar comes under a campaign from Grameen Bank which is designed to persuade him/her to join Grameen programme. The bank explains to her how she can carry some merchandise with her when she goes out to beg from door to door and earn money, or she can display some merchandise by her side when she is begging in a fixed place. Grameen's idea is to graduate her to a dignified livelihood rather than continue with begging.

Such a programme would not be a part of a conventional bank's work.

Grameen system encourages the borrowers to adopt some goals in social, educational and health areas. These are knows as "Sixteen Decisions" (no dowry, education for children, sanitary latrine, planting trees, eating vegetables to combat night-blindness among children, arranging clean drinking water, etc.). Conventional banks do not see this as their business.

In Grameen, we see the poor people as human "bonsai". If a healthy seed of a giant tree is planted in a flower-pot, the tree that will grow will be a miniature version of the giant tree. It is not because of any fault in the seed, because there is no fault in the seed. It is only because the seed has been denied of the real base to grow on. People are poor because society has denied them the real social and economic base to grow on. They are given only the "flower-pots" to grow on. Grameen's effort is to move them from the "flower-pot" to the real soil of the society.

If we can succeed in doing that there will be no human "bonsai" in the world. We'll have a poverty-free world.

A Conversation with the Hon. Peter MacKay

Here at home, the Canadian government has taken notice, and recently pledged more than $40-million dollars to help people in the developing world gain access to financial services. LU talked with The Hon. Peter MacKay about his thoughts on Micro Credit:

Lorna: Tell us why the issue of Micro Credit matters to Canadians.

Hon. Peter MacKay:

Well because it (Micro Credit) works. And it’s transformative. And it empowers people to help themselves. That’s the beauty of micro credit; it gives them the access to capital to purchase the raw materials for production and women in particular in countries that are so impoverished, having this kind of confidence and this kind of life altering experience that they get thru micro credit and this kind of purpose that they gain is truly an inspiration. And Canada, by its announcement today of an additional $40 million by our previous commitment of our micro credit program in places like Afghanistan we’re making a huge contribution and that’s what Canadians want to hear. We’re a generous country by nature but we’re also practical in wanting to understand how it works and how that difference is actually being achieved....To see the impact on the ground… to see how this is allowing women to come out of poverty to do more for their families and their communities, it really it changes your life… it impresses you so much to see their enthusiasm, the vigour that they have to make those businesses a success and the results that they’re achieving … and they’re paying money back. This is what is so remarkable. For the amount of money, one of the first things they want to do is pay that money back which speaks to the integrity, it speaks to the intent and it speaks to the people themselves who just want to do more for themselves. They just need that start. They just need that first ability to get going.”


 
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