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Vancouver's Downtown Eastside

Fighting back against evil as one of Canada’s worst criminal trials gets underway.

Today on Listen Up TV, the trial of missing women that has put Canada’s justice system into unprecedented challenge on a case which exposes just how evil humanity can be.
We’ll take you to Vancouver where the stories of women whose deaths are now the focus of an enormous trial has launched resolve of “never again.”
Twenty-six murdered women, all of them desperate, drug addicted prostitutes, whose final years were spent on the dangerous streets of Vancouver’s Downtown eastside.
But – there is hope – and today we’ll hear from some amazing organizations working tirelessly in Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside bringing value, respect, trust, friendship, and love to those who so desperately need it.
A Community of Hope!

GREG GARLEY
GREG JOYCE
A CONVERSATION with JOYCE HERON of JACOB’S WELL
ORGANIZATIONS & RESOURCES HELPING in VANCOUVER’S DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE
LORNA’S WRAP

GREG GARLEY
Listen Up is looking at a five year old mass murder case in Canada that is still taking the full time work of more than 50 police officers. In February, the case against accused Robert Pickton finally went to trial and dozens of family members began adjusting their lives again to the reality of the crimes. Mona Wilson was 26 when she was reported missing and is now the subject of the Pickton trial. She’d spent eight years living with the Garley family as a foster child – her foster brother talks with Listen Up TV.

GREG JOYCE
Greg Joyce is a reporter with the Canadian Press. He has been covering this case for four years, and now he’s writing about the trial for Canada’s newspapers. He calls this “an extraordinary case.”

A CONVERSATION with JOYCE HERON of JACOB’S WELL

Right in the heart of Vancouver’s downtown eastside, located in a storefront, is a little bit of “sacred space.”
It’s called Jacob’s Well, and according to Joyce Heron, the community that thrives there, is striving to create a different dynamic in this impoverished neighbourhood.

Lorna:  Explain what it is that is so deeply missing in the downtown eastside story.

Joyce: We’ve perpetuated a “taking” mentality. And I don’t know exactly how to address that. What we’ve got is – you can get fed seven times a day, etc. but there’s not a lot of invitation for people who live in this neighbourhood to give. And I think that dehumanizes them. So we’ve tried to create a place of belonging. A sense of family, as a faith community, sharing lives together in this neighbourhood where it’s both a give and take. We have very much a “we” mentality, instead of “us and them”. So it creates a different dynamic.

Lorna: Do you think it’s better here now than it was when the missing women were being ignored? Have you made progress?

Joyce: I think in some ways – it’s a bit inflammatory to even mention but the safe injection site – we think has actually brought help to our neighbourhood… Maybe it’s better to participate in one thing that’s bad to prevent a worse thing happening… And I think people dying behind dumpsters because they don’t believe they’re loved or cared for is not helpful. It’s harmful. And you can’t love someone who’s dead. You can’t help them find hope and salvation and transformation.

Lorna: Your theory for solution is to make this a normal neighbourhood.

Joyce :Yes and bigger things need to be addressed – things like if all of the social service provision is here, this is going to stay here. Why don’t we have people moving in two directions. It’s very hard for people like me to live here, because there’s no housing provided that I wouldn’t be taking from the poor. So I don’t want to rob my friends of housing that they qualify for that I can get elsewhere but I can’t. But we would like to live in and among. You’re going to change a socio-structure if you have people living in and among. If you have diversity, it’s going to change things, isn’t it?

Lorna: What was the tipping point for you to be involved like this in the neighbourhood here?

Joyce: I had been teaching about justice issues for about 4 years – I had been a pastor who began to read the scriptures quite differently and to see things that I had never seen before. Namely – that God had a mandate for those who are marginalized whether the widow or the foreigner or the orphan or the poor – and this is the essence of what if means to be a faithful follower of Yahweh.

In 2001, Joyce took her new understanding of what it means to serve God right into the heart of Vancouver’s poorest district, where she met an elderly woman named Pauline Fell – the founder of Jacob’s Well. Now 91, Pauline is a follower of Christ, who spent 25 years strolling the eastside—building friendships with those who reside there.

Joyce: I met Pauline who was 85 at the time and thought, I should spend some time with her. She’s full of the Lord and I could learn. And so I wandered around the streets with her – for some days – she goes through the allies and the bars most days visiting friends, praying for them, encouraging them and giving them Scripture, and so after a few days of that or maybe even a couple of weeks …she sat me down and said, “I think God sent you here to run this place.” So I sort of fell into it to be honest,
Lorna. I didn’t plan …

Lorna: And how long ago was that?

Joyce: Five years ago.

Lorna: And so you’ve been building this …

Joyce: Right

Lorna: And this is an incarnational project of becoming and living and …

Joyce: Yeah. It’s trying to build relationship with people in the neighbourhood and really share life together like a family. So we’re not an organization in the classic sense – we’re a community of faith that is sometimes organized.

The kitchen at Jacob’s Well is a cheery place – a place where family and friends gather and share life together.

Joyce: Part of what we believe is that if we live the normal Christian life, which has actually become not that normal - people will want to follow Jesus. So when we go to visit our friends – we always pray together – we invite them to speak to God – whether they have surrendered their life to Jesus or not – but then there’s a process they come to where they discover they are believing now – or Jesus is answering their prayers ironically sometimes faster than He answers ours. – so it’s interesting because the ones that are coming to know Jesus are seeing that he is present for them and interested in them and not just to fix them or to heal them – but to use them to minister to us. So it’s been quite powerful in that. Will they all get free of their mental health struggles or their addiction cycles? I don’t know, Lorna. But I do know that people can follow Jesus and have great struggles. And that’s true for me and you and a lot of people sitting in church. It happens that a lot of our friends are just a bit more honest about their vulnerabilities.

Joyce: We’re going to be faithful with what we’re given. What we’re given might be brief. It might be that we only know someone for a handful of months …We’re going to practice a real demonstration of the love of God and a shared life … We think that the kingdom calls us to that. Jesus was a friend of sinners … he sat at the table and ate with people that were marginalized and rejected by the culture. We’re just trying to figure out how to do that … we’re learning.

Joyce believes there could be a lesson we can all learn from this tragic tale of Vancouver’s downtown eastside. Maybe the lesson of the missing women – of this terrible chapter in the story of one desperate Canadian neighbourhood - is that turning our eyes away from humanity’s despair is not an option. There is only darkness down that path. It is, in fact, better to struggle with the struggle.

Joyce: We should engage in the lament. It will change us and it will transform others. We need to ask the hard questions and ask people to turn towards communities of hope. And that’s a very difficult tension here.

Joyce: There is a movement happening to really share life. And I think if, God forbid, something like this was ever to happen again – more people are known – actually known by name and their presence would be missed and they would be noted and not just by families who are further away, but by families who are present here. That’s our hope: that people’s lives will actually count and we’ll see them for who they are.

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LORNA’S WRAP

As I listened to regrets that are all over the Missing Women’s trial, something always surfaced. Relationship.  The murder victims were badly failed by relationships. Most of them in their earliest of days, others, by their own choice to shut out those who tried to care.   Eventually they became hurt people who hurt themselves. Isolation became dangerous, and sheer evil attacked the most vulnerable. One family member called the entire tragedy Satan’s work.  What could God’s work look like?  It would be living out the qualities of God that are all about relationship. It would be relationships that help us fight sin.  Relationship qualities that find their root in knowing God.  We’ve listed on our website some excellent ministries that are not giving up being in relationship with the addicted population of Eastside Vancouver.  We’ve also listed social service agencies that will help you foster children who are at risk of losing healthy relationships.  And finally, you’ll also find discussion links to explore a relationship with God.  Check it all out at listenuptv.com.

ORGANIZATIONS & RESOURCES HELPING in VANCOUVER’S DOWNTOWN EASTSIDE

We’ve been looking at Vancouver’s trial of Missing Women. The horror being uncovered at the trial has strengthened resolve that the voices of those who work with the vulnerable cannot be ignored. We turn our attention now to the work of over 85 agencies and ministries that try and bring healing to 16,000 people who live in Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside – helping the most marginalized – women and children :

Jacob’s Well                    
www.jacobswell.ca
Linwood House Ministries             
www.linwoodhouseministries.org
Union Gospel Mission      
www.ugm.ca
The Salvation Army- BC Division     
www.salvationarmy.ca/bcd
Urban Promise Vancouver    
www.urbanpromise.ca
The Warehouse    
www.cityreach.org
St. Chiara Christian Community
Dodson Rooms
www.Canadianchristianity.com
Mobile Access Project
www.vancouveragreement.ca/
womensprograms
Downtown Eastside Women’s Centre
www.dewc.ca/msg2.htm

Prostitutes Empowerment Education Resource Society
www.vancouveragreement.ca/
Youth.htm
DTES Revitalization Project
www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/
commsvcs/planning/dtes
The Four Pillars Coalition
www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/
fourpillars/coalition.htm
Downtown Eastside Residents Association
www.vcn.bc.ca/dera/overview/
overview.htm

 
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